Thursday, February 25, 2010

Lobbyist on behalf of AZ. state bishops says a statute of limitation on sex crime is necessary so that churches can buy pedophile insurance.

From klenow:

"The writings included in the Bible were not intended as complete & definitive history books. This is evidenced by the fact that the historical portions (Chronicles, the Samuels, Kings, etc) often suggest the reader see other, more definitive works for greater detail. These referenced works have been lost. The whole "All scripture is God-breathed" line used by so many Christians is an out of context sentence fragment. It's not even half of the sentence.

The historical writings of the Old Testament are there to give context to the Prophetic writings of the Old Testament, they are not there to give a complete history of Israel. This context is intended as a record of judgement on Israel for becoming unclean or being unjust and doing nothing about it. You can't hold a text accountable for dropping the ball on something it never intended to do and does not claim to do.

Extraordinary claims only require extraordinary evidence if you're trying to convince someone. Which I guess is implied in the word "claim," but I don't know what claims was made by who or whatever. Anyway.

In the post you linked, the poster is the one making the claim; he's saying Christianity is wrong and should not be believed. It's up to him to now make that argument, it's not up to me to convince him Christianity is right. (Which is a good thing, because I can't. That's why I won't make the claim; I will only claim that I believe it is right). I do not not think his arguments are strong, for the reasons outlined above and decsribed in a bit more detail here. Again, I make no counterclaim because I can't back it up. I only say that his arguments are weak.

If you want to disprove something scientifically, you have to find evidence to contradict. To use another relevant cliche to counter your relevant cliche, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Invisible pink flying spaghetti unicorn monsters included.

And yes, I do give Christians a hard time about making claims they can't back up."
Here's a link to that thread on Reddit.


belief (faith - conviction) obtains permission from the greater community. without permission, experience is the source. For example: Belief in a caring god improves response to medical treatment for depression. (Eurekalert, Journal of Clinical Psychology) And without which, there's no social support. So to cultivate social support, one adopts the ways of a selected group, probably in response to the perceived degree of threat (like from subjective (deamons) or objective (terrorists) territorial threats).

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